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Mal_1200
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PostSubject: Ball Joints   Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:26 pm

Hi people, I have just been informed by the roadworthy guy, my 94 SC needs upper ball joints, not happy jan, can any one tell me where I can purchase
some after market ones in Aus, and does anyone have any tips in changing them.
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Model and year : 98 Supercustom G
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:56 pm

I just changed my upper ball joint .

Mine a 98 , On the 98 you have to change the complete upper arm . The ball joint is not a seperate item .
Costed me $220 for the complete upper arm from R & E Parts , But Burson will also have them .

I'm pretty sure the earlier ones 91-96 have a different arm setup and you can change the ball joint only .
In which case it'll only cost about $30 .
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:49 pm

Thanks Chamra,

I dont think I have seen a bursons up here in sydney but I will google that one.
I took it into pedders and they said mine is a complete arm as well, they quoted me $700.00
each but I think they were genuine toyota parts because they don't list them.
Did you fit yours? Can you send me contact details for R&E parts?

thanks, Mal.
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:08 pm

Hi Chamra

I called Bursons and R&E and niether of them could find it
do you have a part number or contact details of the person you dealt with at R&E?

Thanks Mal.
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:12 pm

Part # from R & E is : BJ1278L + arm for the left side .

Don't know the part for the right side .
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:22 pm

Copied from the Roadsafe catalogue :
8/95-on Hiace LH103/113/125, RZH103/113/125
RH-BJ1277R
LH-BJ1278L
inc. Arm
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:21 am

I had my upper and lower balls changed on my '92 in Hungary. I think they are the same balls as on the Compact.
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:50 am

bursons price $270.00 a side for upper ball joints and arms Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:19 am

4WD whole upper wishbone.

2WD just the ball joint.
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:05 pm

mines a 2 wheel drive whole upper wishbone
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:11 pm

Maybe changed with the facelift version?

Certainly on my older one they are bolt on joints.

Just a thought there is a grease nipple point fitted with a blanking bolt, maybe a few squired with a grease gun will sort things out?
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:02 pm

In my Family we have 5 Hiaces between us . Its my job to maintain them .

We have 2 1997 supercustoms Series 2, Both have complete upper wishbones .
Also have a 1999 supersustom Series 2 and it also has a complete wishbone.
Also have a 1999 Australian Delivered Hiace and it also has a complete wishbone.

Last I have a an Australian delivered 1996 Hiace , It has a bolt on ball joint .

Pic of the complete wishbone Arm .
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:36 pm

That's a lot of wishbones! Shocked

As Clive pointed out there are blanking bolts that can be replaced with grease nipple's. I have always kept the grease up to mine, mainly cause of the off road adventures. I thought i had a problem once with the right side making a clunking noise but turned out only to be a loose front wheel bearing. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:36 am

there is no blanking bolt on mine unfortunatly
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:06 am

Are you 100% sure on that?? Can be hard to see if there's a build up of dirt.
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:53 pm

yes sure as i have cleaned both sides throughly and there isno blanking bolt. unless mine are the originals?
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PostSubject: BALL JOINT   Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:29 pm

Hi Guys,

Is the blanking bolt that you are talking about located on the top of the ball joint and if so are you just removing it and fitting the grase nipple in its place and what type of grease are you then pumping in?.

Cheers Dave Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:19 am

Yes and HMP lithium grease.
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PostSubject: BALL JOINTS   Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:49 pm

Hi Clive,

You can always be relied apon for a prompt response, I will now just have to get around to doing it. The Van has just passed its MOT and the only thing raised was the slight play in the ball joints, the Tester said the joints seemed ok and that it was only when he jacked up the suspension that any movement showed and that as the movement was very slight he would pass it.

He then said as it was an import he did not know how the torsion bars affected the ball joints and whether or not he should be testing them with the vehicle jacked up or sitting on the ground Question Rolling Eyes very confusing!!!!

Good to see you are still around, when are you getting yourself a nice new S.C

Cheers,

Dave
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:36 pm

Pump the grease in with the vehicle jacked so it can enter any void. Also don't put too much grease in as the rubber boots just blow up like greasy balloons Very Happy
A periodic jack up and boot massage can redistribute whats in there if needed...a bit like you would for cracking UJs on other vehicles
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:28 am

Yep still around, will be looking for another SC in the summer.

Import or not a torsion bar is a torsion bar, ir is intended to operate through to the limits of the suspension movement, tell your MoT tester to have more sugar in his tea and get his brain working!
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:00 pm

Well so far I have managed to totally confuse the guy from R&E after he sent the wrong ones and pedders couldn't fit them. Desparation had me paint up the old wishbones to look like new and pump the joints full of the heaviest grease I could purchase from repco with the wheels jacked off the ground, then a couple of extra pumps for good measure out the front of the mechanics before it was retested, and it passed with a smile...Yay pressure is off, but I still need new ones, so far I haven't been able to locate a set to suit a '94
sc 4wd.
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:17 pm

Are we talking about the upper suspension arm ball joint? Had an advisory at last MOT that there was slight play in it. Anyway know where I can get in done in Bristol UK?
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:21 am

2WD any garage, 4WD you may have to shop around.
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PostSubject: Re: Ball Joints   Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:04 pm

Just been quoted 900 for both to be replaced by Toyota main d(st)ealer with genuine parts. A bit of a shock. This was a quote to replace the whole suspension arm based on 1.5 hours labour each side and he said that it would not be possible to just get ball joint only or patent parts - which they would not fit anyway.

It was not very encouraging when he said it depends on what else they find as well! Makes me a little sceptical. No other advisories on last MOT and independant Toyota specialist (Warmley) has looked after it for the past two services with everything else done and nothing else spotted. He cannot do this job as needs to go on a ramp apparently.

How easy is it to change these parts. Can it be done with a jack, a few spanners and a bit of initiative?
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