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PostSubject: New driving restrictions in France.   Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:08 am

Looks like our big old diesels may not be as 'go anywhere' as they used to be. I guess that's another reason to put a more modern engine in if anything expensive ever goes wrong, I suspect a D4D is much cleaner. Rather a faff though.

Regardless it looks like we need to get a sticker if travelling in France in the future in case we get stopped and checked:

http://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/law-change-for-uk-drivers-in-french-cities/

RAC wrote:
RAC European breakdown spokesman Simon Williams says: "British motorists travelling to Paris, Lyon and Grenoble need to make sure they donít get caught out by the new Crit'Air scheme that has come into force.

"The scheme requires vehicles to have an emissions sticker clearly visible on the windscreen. The penalty for not displaying one is an on-the-spot fine of between Ä68 and Ä135 (about £58 to £117).


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PostSubject: Re: New driving restrictions in France.   Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:12 am

Looks like early HiAces don't get a sticker... presumably making the LEZs no-go areas..?

At least they are publicising it.. the London LEZ wasn't well advertised outside the area, despite what the organisers claim. Very expensive lesson!

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PostSubject: Re: New driving restrictions in France.   Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:30 am

WGWarburton wrote:
Looks like early HiAces don't get a sticker... presumably making the LEZs †no-go areas..?

At least they are publicising it.. the London LEZ wasn't well advertised outside the area, despite what the organisers claim. Very expensive lesson!

Cheers,
† † † † † † † W.

I thought the Hiace would get an 'older than 19xx' type sticker - did you go through the menus? I haven't yet but may soon for the scooter!

Sorry to hear of your London experience Sad. Does the London LEZ apply to our Hiaces?

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/low-emission-zone/check-if-your-vehicle-is-affected

I thought we'd be too old (pre 2002) or a too light a camper.
I'll probably avoid it mainly due to the network of spy/speed/bus lane cameras, random speed limits, theft and vandalism and epic traffic Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: New driving restrictions in France.   Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:33 am

Oh, Ok I just typed my Hiace info in:

LEZ wrote:

LEZ wizard page

You are affected by the Low Emission Zone
You do not meet the emissions standards.

Is your vehicle registered outside Great Britain? If so, once your vehicle meets the standards you will need to register it with TfL.

What are my options?

How to register

You said your vehicle:

runs on diesel
weighs between 1.205 GVW and 3.5 tonnes GVW
was registered as new before 1 January 2002
has had no modification
TfL classifies your vehicle as a larger van or other specialist diesel vehicle for LEZ purposes.

Won't be visiting in that then!
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PostSubject: Re: New driving restrictions in France.   Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:43 pm

Well, I wouldn't put in a D4D diesel. Yeah it might run cleaner, but it is a matter of time before you get banned again.
And you would still have an old model year with a diesel, so that would help.
Converting to petrol would give best chance. With LPG or CNG would even be better, but that would be a lot of effort, and still have the change of being banned on an old model year.
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PostSubject: Re: New driving restrictions in France.   Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:21 pm

don't know how they have implemented it in France, but the German's seem to have done this well. Took our old Westy there and everywhere we wanted to go there were carparks on the outskirts of the Umweltezones, walkable or often with park and ride facilities. †I prefer this to driving into a city anyway.

Of course, the satnav would always try and route us through the zone to get to the car park!

Doesn't help if you happen to live on one of the zones though.
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PostSubject: Re: New driving restrictions in France.   Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:36 pm

All good points!

I'm still hoping one day someone develops a new aluminium battery, then we can ditch all our engines, transmissions, tank, transfer boxes and diffs and pop in a battery onto the engine mounts and 2 or 4 small hub motors hooked up to a small control box where the rocker cover used to live LOL.

If I was to buy a new van I'd probably go for a petrol + turbo with a manual box and a gas conversion.
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